I agree on this. Just take a look at Adam W.Cooper’s other lessons and you will see the pattern being repeated. The fact that so many of us have problems with his lessons, means something is definitively wrong with the way those lessons are taught.

can you provide more specific examples so we can maybe work on them?

Can you tell me how to quote the code in this comment box? When I add a new answer I simply use the “{}” but in what should I do in here?

From: Just average 04/05:

“Write a function called get_class_average that takes your student list as input to compute the average of your entire class.”

What student list? We have dictionaries with student names, not lists.

Sadly, you cannot format code in the Q&A comments (yet…) And good example. Thanks.

No, thank you. For all the effort an explanation you gave us.

We did make a student list, though. It just got deleted as we completed exercises. Remember, it was students = [lloyd, alice, tyler]. I believe for this exercise we need to add the list back in so we can use it as an input for the get_class_average function.

I would ditto stgeorge’s initial comment. I was moving along just fine through the lessons until hitting the Cooper series. I think there are two problems with some of the lessons - ambiguous wording and a need for iterative practice with syntax. I found myself continually having to go back and reference the list and dictionary syntax examples because too much of the code is directly given to you, and then you are asked to repeat it wholesale. As to ambiguity, another sample to add to this one: A Day at the Supermarket, section three “Shopping Trip” uses ambiguous wording (“Write a function compute_bill that takes a parameter food as input and computes your bill by looping through your food list and summing the costs of each item in the list.” - what list? The groceries list? Some other ‘food’ list that’s getting added in? What’s the point of the grocery list otherwise? In implementation it ends up making very little difference,yes, but it’s that kind of wording that pops up in other places as well where the teachers intentions are a bit vague or the phrases don’t match directly.

I agree with all the critic on Cooper’s lessons. following the lessons of weinstein or others was perfekt but when doing cooper’s its alsways results in totaly unneccessary murder of time. e4Nf3Bb5 and stgeorge found the best words - i encountered the same problems. beeing able to look up examples of right solutions instead of searching in this forum would be great.

I agree with the comments above

I agree that some of the directions are vague and miscommunicate what the lesson actually wants. I never even finished the “Shopping Trip” because it would not work no matter what I did, even using the code others said worked for them. I asked friends who know python and they saw nothing wrong with my code, so I just moved on. Clarifying the directions might be a good idea.

I also agree

I dont think it is a miscommunication error. It says to define a function that returns sum(x) / len(x) BUT Python needs to know that the result is a float, so the hint tells us how to make it: return float(sum(x)) / len(x)

I receive an error that the average function doesn’t return a float, but it does. I ran my code in IDLE and it is returning a float. Any suggestions?

Of course, I’m also getting the correct answer for test cases and a few others that I’ve made up.

What worked for me is where you initially set the total variable to 0, set it to 0.0 instead

Thanks Chris! I had this same problem and your comment fixed it

I see in the instructions: “write a function average that takes a list of numbers as the parameter lst (for list)”

If I follow the instructions:

def average(1st)

I’m going to totally ignore this. Again, the architect of a program is the first point of failure.

since i don’t see a way to upvote comments, i would like to echo the sentiments regarding the lessons by Adam Cooper. i find the instructions to be worded in an unnecessarily confusing manner, and the inconsistencies in the code i’ve written being replaced / modified only adds to the confusion, as it breaks any continuity of thought as i (try to) progress.

my thoughts exactly

I also agree.

I often find myself coming here and having to find the answer because of how confusing the lesson can be. It’s counter productive and I barely learn anything by doing so. I get the basics, come to completely baffling point in the lesson with no idea how to proceed and then have to come to the Q&A forum for help. The “hints” are also something to be desired, they provide no insight into what common problems might be.

I completely agree, this is a difficult enough process without the questions being delivered in riddles.

Speak for yourselves. The average function was easy enough to figure out if you just read the instructions rather than try to write it with preconceived assumptions.

def average(listofnumbers): return sum(listofnumbers)/len(listofnumbers)

followed by function calls would suffice , since we are passing a list to the function

def avarage(numbers): total=sum(numbers) total=float(total) return total / len(numbers)
this is what the text tells you to do but i still get an error …

I agree. The instructions are a list of 5 things to do to while the actual task only takes 3 steps. Many of us are seeing it the way it says just like jufranzoi pointed out. For it to be logical it would need to be instructed more like 1.Define a function called average with an argument of numbers. 2. steps 2, 3, and 4 can be placed here with some minor editing 3. Return the result. That would make much more sense logically. When you tell me to store something in a var called total then to alter it then to alter it again I’m going to end up with total in the script more than one time. No offense the the instructors because I really appreciate the fact that I can learn all this for free and from home but it seems like we skipped alot of basics, and since this is a basics course…..yeah.

Definitely concur, there are more than a few issues like this I’ve seen in the instructions thus far.

The instructions in “Student Becomes the Teacher 8/9: Part of the Whole” are deeply confusing, and almost caused me to give up on the entire Python course at Codecademy. To begin: the sentence “You can expect STUDENTS to be a list containing your three students” does not mean the same thing to a beginner as “Create a list called STUDENTS, containing lloyd, alice, and tyler,” but that is what the author intends for us to do. Next, he refers to a CLASS list, which seems to mean the STUDENTS list he never quite told you to create, under a different name, but “class” is a reserved term in Python, for declaring classes, so naming your list of students “class” won’t work. And he never suggests putting in PRINT commands to actually see what your code does - though that’s the only source of mission-accomplished satisfaction we’re going to get out of these simple programs. And as other commenters have mentioned, there is way too little practice with list and dictionary syntax before you are expected to have it memorized, and to double back and refer to examples prior lessons in Codecademy requires difficult navigation and lots of “Open link in new tab” so you don’t lose your place in the current lesson. I’ve done a lot of Codecademy lessons and courses, but this is the first I’ve encountered that frustrated me nearly to the point of quitting. If I hadn’t found the advice in the Q&A forum, I would have abandoned Codecademy’s Python course with this lesson.

I just looked at this and it had 193 votes on it. Read through and it was amazing, so i voted too. :)

There needs to be a serious review of Adam Cooper’s work. I’ve gone through the HTML/CSS track, JS track, and most of Python with few problems. I get here and it is nothing but cognitive dissonance, poorly worded instructions, shoddy hints if there were any, and endless frustration trying to use material I haven’t had enough practice with. Thank DOG for google and these forums, otherwise I would have quit.

I did think there was something wrong with how some of the lessons were worded. For everyone’s sakes, I would hope that all these errors are corrected to prevent so much confusion.

Well Connor, I think you forget that you wouldn’t even have this free source of information about coding, if it wasn’t for Adam Cooper

Connor, you need to lighten up a bit. You have been able to code this far and now you decide to call Adam Cooper names. What’s the point? To be honest, the only reason why you dislike Adam is because you can’t figure it out. This is not Adam’s fault. Other people have been able to pass this, so you can as well. Stop being such a negative dishearten person.

I got through the lesson just fine. The only problem is that he failed to give clear concise instructions. Other students got through it because they copied someones source..

I’d actually consider myself guilty of that…

First off, just to be cynical, he’s the teacher, not us. He should be teaching us, not ignoring us as we try to teach him. Idea: why not email a survey form about each lesson for feedback once you complete it?

Some people have no respect

has nothing to do with respect, the lesson writer admittedly throws us under the bus and asks us to do things that we’re still(obviously) not comfortable with by telling us outright that they’ve been holding our hands and are no longer going to do so. to be honest, i started struggling with my comprehension of the lessons shortly after the grocery shopping….i’ve been going back over the lessons several times to try and understand what the teacher is asking for, i didn’t get it until today.

@Shane Stout exactly ^^^

ditto

It was not clear from the instructions and it became marginally clearer with this elaboration. Only when I studied other people’s code below it made real sense to me.

I agree with all of the above. Some of the instructions need to be rewritten. If a few students don’t understand the instructions, then it’s a problem with the students. If a lot, or even most, of the students don’t understand, then it’s a problem with the instructions.

I couldn’t agree less… I am appreciative that the lesson wasn’t spelled out, such that all I had to do was cut and paste. With the current lesson, I believe I now have a much better understanding. Seeing how to do something incorrectly allows the student to see the problem from many different angles, which adds to their base knowledge.

If the instructions were perfect, we wouldn’t even be having this conversation. “Food” can’t come out of nowhere.

Hi, thanks, it works, I finally did, but I really I don’t understand how it works because this code is similar to mine

Thank you very much :)

thanks so much

Thanks a lot. I had done everything I could but got stuck on the very last line. Yours shed a large photon of light on that, thanks again.

Thanks

Thanks! I got the correct answer, but used the wrong approach. I explicitly named the students in function:

print get_class_average([alice, lloyd, tyler]) print get_letter_grade(get_class_average([lloyd, alice, tyler]))

…rather than creating a list: students = [lloyd, alice, tyler]

I was going to try that approach next (honest)..your solution made that moot…

Thanks again.

Thanks!

I was stuck at this point for up to a day, but after seeing the way you defined your get_class_average function, realized it was all in the instructions, just not clear enough. Thanks for helping with this. Now I can proceed. :-)

thanks a lot..i was stuck here for a day…finally i can understand now.. :

it worked! thanks

can someone PLEASE EXPLAIN, what python is doing from the SECOND DEF, def get_average(student): homework = average(student[“homework”]) quizzes = average(student[“quizzes”]) tests = average(student[“tests”])

return 0.1 * average(student["homework"]) + 0.3 * average(student["quizzes"]) + 0.6 * average(student["tests"])

can someone please explain why he/she uses student as the parameter, I mean I don’t see a list or a variable called student.

The variable student is first created in the def function line. The variable is created to be used only inside the function. The variable can be anything you want. The student variable is used in the three average calculations for homework, quizzes, and tests. When you call the function with the parameter lloyd with get_average(lloyd), it assigns lloyd to the variable student inside the function. Everywhere that the variable student is found within the function is replaced with lloyd. Please let me know if this makes sense.

cheers andrew m8 that is a much clear

Thank You, Thank You! I was stuck on this for some time. I think though there is an error in the compiler here, at one point I reset the code and ran it to submit (with nothing done for 8/9) and I was getting the same error about alice not being a str or int. I had to log out of codeacademy come back in and I submitted an empty 8/9 and then it told me I had to define the function.

I had a similar approach bet was writting “student in students” instead of “item in students”. Somehow this had a confliction with a previous variable assignment maybe? One thing: there seems to be a disagreement on where in this code to place the students = [“””] list. After the dictionaries, withing the last definition or at the end outside of the definition?

Thank you for this. I was pulling my hair out on the last step of this one. I had apparently missed the step asking me to make the list “students” somewhere. When I created this list used a different list name and it kept spitting out errors despite the console output being right. I change the list name and update the final print commands with the new list name and it passes me.

A big thank you for the help… it was a confusing journey to the next level.

i am sorry people but for me it doent work….. i did the same

works perfect, the part i was missing in the get_class_average() function was the: return AVERAGE(results) instead I had just return results which gave me a list of each student’s average instead of just 1 number for the whole class. misunderstood directions on this step of the lesson

Yea, this works

This way works:

return 0.1 * average(student[“homework”]) + 0.3 * average(student[“quizzes”]) + 0.6 * average(student[“tests”])

but this also worked for me:

hw = homework * .10 qzs = quizzes * .30 tst = tests * .60 return hw + qzs + tst its more simplified

Thanks!

thank you so much!!

you know more than the instructor. Thank you very much for the clarification!

Oh thanks so much! I get stuck there and cannot explain why

Thanks, although I was getting the correct result in the interpreter, it didn’t like the way I had gotten it!

you are literally a legend

votes for u. :)

I dont get why I need variables (homework etc.) ?!

YOU ARE… DA BEST.

YYYYYYYAAAAAAASSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Great, but why define variables in get_average function if you don’t use them later?

in get_average function: you said: return 0.1 * average(student[“homework”]) + 0.3 * average(student[“quizzes”]) + 0.6 * average(student[“tests”])

you already set: average(student[“homework”]) to the variable homework

so it is more efficient to return .1*homework

I have been trying to get this to work for hours. Thank you so much for posting your results!!

thnak you working..:)

Oh, finally, thank you!

thanks!!!

thank you!!

thanks

Can anyone explain why I need an empty results list? results = []? I was just told to put it in, and don’t know why I’d ever use it.

Thanks..I did not have my average function coded correctly. When I looked at the average function mathatically it made sense.

Diego Villena, you append different forms of data to the results list, so when you call the new average() function, it’ll work on all of the items in the results list.

Hallelujah! Several days of blood sweat and tears and now I finally have an answer. I’ll have to look at this code to see where I was flawed but I’m glad I can finally continue with the course now.

thenx dear

Thank you, I can go to bed now.

thank you…:)

o my god! Same as mine and i searched the mistake arround 2 hours! it was the last return positioned 1 tab to the right! DAMN! :D

Thank you

thank you)) it works

Ha that return in get_class_average caught me out too. Moved it out of the for loop and it all worked, Thanks

you did well but this part “return 0.1 * average(student[“homework”]) + 0.3 * average(student[“quizzes”]) + 0.6 * average(student[“tests”])” needs to be revised. Think for a moment.. You set those values equal to variables named homework, quizzes, and tests. Essentially you stored them in a variable for no reason because in your return you typed the contents of the variables you initialized. The code is functional but it does not meet the conceptual parameters. its should just look like this “def get_average(student): homework = average(student[“homework”]) quizzes = average(student[“quizzes”]) tests = average(student[“tests”]) return (homework * .10 + quizzes * .30 + tests * .60)”

Thanks.this solved my problem.

last line was creating error, now it got resloved. Thanks man (y) :)

Reducing redundancy, 一只特立独行的猫 in your code you could simply remove the homework, quizzes, tests variable and leave the return statement, it will give the result. And Brian Blanchard, his answer is perfect but you don’t need parenthesis around your return statement.

Yes indeed, it works! It seems that the get_average() function - was the problem in my case, so my version looked like this:

ef get_average(student):
homework= average(student[“homework”]) quizzes= average(student[“quizzes”]) tests = average(student[“tests”]) return 0.1homework + 0.3quizzes + 0.6*tests

thakyou :) saved me ALOT of time

Change: return 0.1 * average(student[“homework”]) + 0.3 * averag \

Thank you a lot you helped me through out the chapter!!!!!:)

Hi guys, thought this might help: works for me :) def average(numbers): total = sum(numbers) total = float(total) total = total/len(numbers) return total

Thank you!!!! Nice work.

not sure what they problem is but I get the same result as your code which is 83.8666667 and have tried both your code and mine and I get this error message. “ Oops, try again. get_class_average([alice]) returned 85.6875 instead of 91.15 as expected”

So neither of these amounts correspond to the result 83.66667. Anyone got any suggestions?

why don’t you do print average(get_class_average(students))

def get_average(student): homework = average(student[“homework”]) quizzes = average(student[“quizzes”]) tests = average(student[“tests”])

return 0.1 * average(student["homework"]) + 0.3 * average(student["quizzes"]) + 0.6 * average(student["tests"])

You calculate these values twice, once in your declarations, and again when you return.

My problem was forgetting to summate the totals. That was it.

Thanks for this code!! I got confused at the last part, and I don’t think I could have progressed past this without being able to see your answer and compare it to mine. On another note, once I’d figured out my code error I had another persistent problem where it was giving me a wrong average. Turns out the last line was indented one too many times, haha. Don’t forget to double-check your indents people!

Thanks! So glad to get past this idiotic lesson!

Man, I just got confused after many functions defined, lol.

Thank you for your post! I have one question about below code: return 0.1 * average(student[“homework”]) + 0.3 * average(student[“quizzes”]) + 0.6 * average(student[“tests”])

As you have stored the value into homework, quizzes and tests, why can’t you use them directly in this code?

I hope I am clear with my question, thank you.

Yes, He, that is right, you just need ‘return 0.1 * homework….’

I tried using average = get_class_average(students) print average but it gives an error , why ?

I used : def get_average(student): homework = average(student[“homework”]) * 0.1 quizzes = average(student[“quizzes”]) * 0.30 tests = average(student[“tests”]) * 0.60 return homework + quizzes + tests

and it worked.

just seemed like cleaner code and less lines used.

return 0.1 * homework + 0.3 * quizzes + 0.6 * tests —-this is what i used as i had already saved all the averages in variables i felt no need to write them out all over again

thank you soooo much

well… I don’t know about you, but we all have Google…. and I am not trying to be a dick… but if you really want to learn Python, then read the lesson, and then google things you don’t get… even if there are some differences between 2.7 and version 3, you are doing yourself a far greater service by a little extracurricular reading/researching.

^^ this guy, I like this guy ^^

^^seconded

Yes, extracurricular activity helps, yes, looking stuff up on google helps too, but having exercises explained clearly makes it possible for us to follow them. “Free and useful” is to me, better than “Free and opaque”

Indeed. This is the third time I have had to look something up HERE. These guys ought to be helping us work through the problems. Step. By. Step.

My biggest pet peeve is when the hints say EXACTLY the same thing as the example text, that irks me because clearly I need the hint because I didn’t comprehend the above text. Other than that, I just go with the flow and try to see if I can catch on.

I feel like having to look around to fix my code is helping me remember the missing pieces better! I love Codecademy. These lessons have convinced me that I want to go back to school for computer science.

I personally find this and the last set of tutorials to be utterly mystifying. Even when, through hours of trial and error, I manage to pass an exercise, I do so having gained little or no comprehension of the intended concepts and it is only through trial and error that I gain some tertiary new knowledge of how python works.

I’m up to exercise 6/9 I have almost no understanding of defining functions, their limitations and structural specifics (i.e. sometimes I can print values out of them and sometimes I can’t and I have no clue why) and even less of an understanding of the interrelationship between them and lists/dictionaries let alone the actual ability to call specific values from them and extract useful information modularly… in other words, following a list of specific yet vague instructions != understanding.

I will help you Ari! I got stuck on this too! Yer pal -JF

haha

crazy that i saw yer comment!

Yeah, definitely! The instructions should be rewritten!

This entire section is SO much easier to follow than the last one. For me, the problem is STILL figuring out the right way to work with dictionaries and lists. I was never clear on when and how to use the key and when and how to use the value. If people are trying to use counting in these exercises, it’s probably because counting was never clearly explained.

As for me, this is the first section where I was able to “think like a programmer.” I understand that, if I want to use averages in my code, unless this is built into Python (like min(), max(), and abs()) I will ALWAYS have to start by writing the function myself. Maybe that’s what Michael means when he writes “faulty logic”.

I agree, the previous exercise was awfully difficult to follow. It seemed to make a HUGE leap in presuming our understanding of new concepts and instantly expected us to not only know how to use the new concepts but to combine them too. It has really slowed down my progress.

I have been stuck on these past two lessons for like two weeks! I am on the verge of giving up but I want to use python possibly to control an arduino. These lessons help me understand preexisting code which allows me to roughly modify for my spare components which I have. For me personally, this is just such a new concept that there is going to be a learning curve. The instructions should be a little clearer and more user friendly but on the same token nothing easy in this world is worth while…

I completely agree!! Sometimes it’s not clear what we have to do

It doesn’t work!

i can assure you it does. suggestion … get Sublime Text 3, or 2 > create a python project … add code to project, as is above, build and voila. if running on a mac you may or may not have to put the shabang or #!usr/bin/python … and if on windows you need to get an interpreter installed. good luck … else use the browser interpreter :)

THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I tried like 50 different ways and couldn’t get it!

Thanks for the lead Goran, your work helped me a great deal. I found the specification odd and difficult to understand.

I was attempting do this with a for or while loop indexing the list of students because I had been taught in ancient times that doing the calculations in the output section of the program was a bad idea for some reason.

thanks it works

thanks….it helped me

Thanks. This helped me. :)

two days, same error. Tried everything. Oops, try again. get_class_average([alice, lloyd]) returned 91.15 instead of 85.85 as expected

opap, I have the answer to you error, you get that error when the “ return average(results)” is indented too far, it should be indented one less than the “results.append(whatever_you_named_it)”

thx you )

Says Return out of function on line 49 but there is no line 49

Thanks, I couldn’t figure out why it didn’t work, then… indentation… doh!

thanks mate..

That’s clean code there

I love you comenters! Crono I’m with you. Stupid indentations!

thanks for this, i have been struggling with 8/9 part for several days. i guess the instructions need to be revised.

That is very efficient code indeed! Nice work.

Thanks a lot for this one. My average function got me through that lesson, but then turned out to be broken in the Sending a Letter function.

.look easy :))

Nope, did not work :(

As it shouldn’t. This will return an integer when the correct average should be a float

What is a float? I don’t recall learning this…

An “integer” is a whole number (i.e. 1), a “float” is a number with a decimal (i.e. 3.14). The subject was introduced back in 1.3 (Python Syntax > Data Types)

That’s not a good description of a float, since it could just as easily describe a decimal, which is distinct. A float is an imprecise decimal; it allows it to be rounded after a certain number of decimal places.

I would also like to point out that I do not recall float() specifically being introduced anywhere. Floats were indeed mentioned in lesson one, but specifically defining a float, even when going back and reviewing, I still don’t see it. Had to google it.

Can anyone help out with the different styles of brackets please? When do we use the different ones? I think I get it for creating variables, lists and dictionaries but recalling them back is a bit more difficult.

I was using [] in this average function as I wanted it to work through the whole dictionary but here I see I should be using ()

Thanks

[] is for lists, {} is for dictionaries.

i write the same… didn’t work lol

Ok the answer above is correct. Although it took me some time to get the idea. Generally you really need to read the assignment. Which turns uot ti be a problem, this asks you to write a general function. And i was looking for a way to calculate the score of every student:

{def average(numbers): total=0 total=sum(numbers)+total total=float(total) total=total/len(numbers) return total}

not for me :(

It did for me…don’t forget the TWO closing brackets before the /

huh, works

works fine just don’t forget to indent the return statement

mine keeps on saying “get_average not defined”

I get the same thing here average([1,2[) only returns 1.

It’s because of integer division. The instructions should now better explain that…

I’m a little confused about this. When writing the function that returns students’ weighted averages, can I use .1 or .3, or does it have to be 0.1 or 0.3? I noticed that some people used 0.10 or 0.30. Is this a matter of style, or is there a preferred notation?

So the correct code is…

def average(x): return float(sum(x))/len(x)

This helped a lot. I had mistakenly had everything in one set of parenthesis next to the float.

You can assume the list is all numbers.

i thought exactly like philuk2000, i wrote a function that was checking if the list was composed only by numbers, just to realize it wasn’t needed xD

Good point, philuk. Now that’s sound logic.

I think the problem is the lesson is leading somewhere but does not give us the overview FIRST. If we knew the end result, we would probably realize the EXACT purpose of the function.

EXACTLY!!! But then again forum participation would come to a halt. Maybe this is intentional.

Yes, you will not end up with syntax errors and get the “way to go!” at the bottom of the screen.

This was the one that finally worked for me. def average(lst): return float(sum(lst)) / len(lst) I was making it more complex than it called for, trying to average each student’s homework, tests, etc. The exercise is looking for a generic list averaging function.

This will get the green light but it doesn’t actually work in a script.

it worked but am curious about @Joe Reitman comment that it doesn’t actually work in a script?can it work?

how old are you fridah ?

Recruiting old sport?

does age matter really?

Yes, yes it does old sport .

am in my early 20’s n btw wat all abt old sport??

It’d math.average, and I’m not entirely certain that is a function.

same for me man…. Do you know why????

When I run that code it doesn’t pass…

Houston, we have a bug.

def average(x): return float(sum(x)) / (len(x))

I’m confused… what are you submitting and what message are you getting?

My first post, I passed with, but received a syntax error. I know it’s not right but I’m so new to all this that I just try something until it works without knowing the rhyme or reason. I just wanted to make sure the function returned a float. So, the second average function worked for me. I really don’t know why. I wish there was a little more of an explanation of why this stuff works. I’ve been looking all over the web and found some stuff pertaining to that, but I think it would be cool if your site contained more of it. I think understanding the mechanics of why and how the code works might demystify it, but I know that’s not the site’s responsibility. Anyway . . .

Hi. I’m a noob myself but I’ll try to explain. Function float() changes it’s parameter value to float thus you can use it only on integer or string type variables and you were trying to use it on the list cause x you’re passing to your average() function is a list of numbers.

Your second average function is wrong but works because the list in the exercise you’re passing to it comprises of floats so float() function does nothing in this particular case. If it were integers it wouldn’t work. int/int = int (wrong value for example 10/4=2), float/int=float (correct) int/float=float (correct)

I’m confused. Why would it let me pass? What’s the correct answer?

I’m not sure

Oops, try again. get_average(alice) returned <function get_average at 0x7f56525ea0c8> instead of the expected 91.15

i have the exact same problems :(

Learn to add alt text. Just use

LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you made reall laugh. Thanks ever so much!

Remember, no one said you can’t create an additional data set to help you solve the problem!

wowza. didn’t realize one could use a for next loop like you have just shown/shared when programming using the Python programming language. Reminds of of the BASIC that was imbedded in a Commodore64 i learned 28 years ago and over the years have subsequently forgotton alot of due to simply not using that particular version of BASIC. Reminds me of the saying “ The more things change, the more they stay the same if you can mentally process the essense of what I am communicating to you via this text entry. My first thought upon reading the intructors instructions was “How convoluted can you get?. Here i will clarify: his instructions: Define a function called get_class_average that has one argument…”students+. You can expect students to be a list containing your three students.{all right sir, it’s not i CAN expect. It’s I SHOULD and WILL expect because the contents of this singular lesson only has a list that only contains a listing of 3 students. First, make an empty list called results….OK….actually, What he wrote firstly is the instruction to define a function..right? Then the instructor of this course writes. “First, make and empty bla bla. Well partner… that is actually second in your psuedo-list of instructive material.Linear thought processing and then expressing such linear thought via (in this case English) should be..well…linear. You sir,(not you Carlo) are a source of confusion and I will in the future be using some high-level (haha) common sense when reading you “instructive reading material”

i did almost the same, but i think its not right

PLz try dis

avg = 0 def average(list): avg = sum(list)/((len(list)) * 1.0) return avg

This does not work.

Thanks, it worked!

Hi,kp_569 you just have to arrange it in the correct order.

how do you take the average of a name?!

Thank you much.

thnks :)

your get_average doesn’t work :(

You don’t need to use “len” twice. You use it to define lon, then you use “len(lon)” in your return. You already defined “lon” as len(lst).

wow, finally got it to work. thanks. i’ve been struggling a bit w/ this one

lloyd = { “name”: “Lloyd”, “homework”: [90.0, 97.0, 75.0, 92.0], “quizzes”: [88.0, 40.0, 94.0], “tests”: [75.0, 90.0] } alice = { “name”: “Alice”, “homework”: [100.0, 92.0, 98.0, 100.0], “quizzes”: [82.0, 83.0, 91.0], “tests”: [89.0, 97.0] } tyler = { “name”: “Tyler”, “homework”: [0.0, 87.0, 75.0, 22.0], “quizzes”: [0.0, 75.0, 78.0], “tests”: [100.0, 100.0] }

def average(lst): length = len(lst) avg = 0 avg += float(sum(lst))/ length return avg

def get_average(student): wavg = 0 wavg = average(student[“homework”])* 0.1 + average(student[“quizzes”]) * 0.3 + average(student[“tests”])* 0.6

return wavg

“”” hi guys… i solved this by editing the average(lst) function……. but i am still confused …..i need to review whole of the concept again..

def get_average(student): wavg = 0.0 wavg = average(student[“homework”])* 0.1 + average(student[“quizzes”]) * 0.3 + average(student[“tests”])* 0.6 return wavg

wavg = 0.0 ,which means the format of float is essential here. The code above had made me pass.

I think the last return line on the get_class_average function is indented one too many times as it stands…

Sorry for the typo, it was supposed to be indented once only. Could you verify the last print line? Much appreciated.

Hi Shaita, Put print before the function like print get_letter_grade(get_average(lloyd))

well, only if you knew to use reduce(lambda x, y: such-and-such)

I think it might be in def get_average where you assigned the local variable average = (0.1 * homework) + (0.3 * quizzes) + (0.6 * tests)?

is there a confliction of using a local variable with the same name as a function?

Hi Scott ,

Kindly remove average = (0.1 * homework) + (0.3 * quizzes) + (0.6 * tests) from your code and it will work fine . :)

Because they aren’t strings. They are dictionaries and therefore you don’t use quotation marks with them. You’re creating a list with three different dictionaries. (= I hope this helps you.

“print get_letter_grade(get_average(students))” shuould be “print get_letter_grade(get_average(lloyd))”

I indent the return line and it gives me an ‘unexpected indent’ error!!!! Then when I unindent it gives me an ‘outside of function’ error.